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Victory
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12 Jan 2007 02:46 AM  
It will be if it's up to Microsoft. Recently Microsoft has been sporting its new replacement for the universal image format. Would this change affect you if Jpeg were to become obselete and what would the extent of effect be? Almost all of my works are saved in the Jpeg format and if Jpeg were to be replaced I would have to go through the trouble of resaving all my files unless a conversion tool were released.
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12 Jan 2007 09:15 PM  
when is this supposed to happen??
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13 Jan 2007 01:25 AM  

IMO it can and will 'stick'. Windows has such a broad base of consumers that accept whatever Microsoft sticks on the PC, that I believe they could through with deploying this.



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Available for Windows XP and the upcoming Windows Vista, Windows Media Photo ("WMPhoto") suggests a revolutionized means of compressing digital photos.


Presently, digital photos are converted into the JPEG picture file format when stored on the computer: a standard form of file compression. Converting a digital photograph in JPEG format keeps the picture file size small, while maintaining almost the same quality as the original, larger file.


For example: JPEG compression can typically shrink an image with a 12:1 compression ratio without damaging the original quality of the photograph. This also means that you can store more photos on digital cameras that capture images in a native JPEG format, plus the transmission speed when transferring photos to the PC is greatly increased.


JPEG Versus Windows Media Photo (WMPhoto)

The makers of Windows Media Photo are suggesting that their new technology will enable users to compress files greater than JPEG, making them more accessible and practical for digital cameras and cellular phones.


Files in the Windows Media Photo format will print faster, transfer faster, and help to elongate the battery life. The compression rate for Windows Media Photo will convert photos at a 24:1 ratio as opposed to the 12:1 ratio of JPEGs.


These photos will be smaller, will use less space (half the size of JPEG files), will be more detailed, and will have a better quality than those done in the JPEG format.


The problem, however, is that there is currently no support for WMPhoto technology. Without the support of companies such as Adobe Systems, Apple Computer, and Sony Ericsson, Windows Media Photo might not stand a fighting chance making its debut into the hands of end users.

These problems are at present being addressed and the rival for the JPEG format is currently underway.
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13 Jan 2007 04:43 AM  
I would probably adopt the new format though, with the supposed better compression and better image quality why not? Its a good thing and will be beneficial to everyone, viewers and photographers.
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15 Jan 2007 11:03 AM  
I would stick with JPEG for a far while. I have become accustomed to it, and it would have to take a big push from Microsoft to change my opinion. In the long run I guess I will be forced to change as the newer software makes it the default choice, but I will try to stick with JPEG for as long as I can!
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28 Jan 2007 04:43 AM  
Why does Microsoft have to go and ruin everything? Srsly.
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28 Jan 2007 04:34 PM  
Well, I am not surprised Adobe will not agree with it. Adobe has gained a whole lot of market share ever since they brought in the package CS2. They are one of the best companies out there for R+D. I agree that if Adobe doesn’t support Microsoft, there is no way it is going to fly. Can you imagine these two companies up against each other?
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29 Jan 2007 09:19 PM  
That'll give Microsoft a dose of their own bullying medicine.
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30 Jan 2007 04:17 PM  
If that happens, I'd expect that there would be a good conversion program available.

I guess Vista will put pressure against the use of JPEGs.
http://this-twisted-history.blogspot.com/
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30 Jan 2007 11:22 PM  
Just as much as they're pushing their other fangled media formats on us consumers, ha!

Although, I'd be impressed if they found a way to fight image piracy like they (claim to) have for audio and video formats.
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08 Feb 2007 03:53 PM  
Since I first saw this post, I've heard that Vista may be incompatible with itunes, that it may corrupt ipod if it isn't disconnected properly and that it doesn't work with some online games.

I've also read on another forum that Iranian hackers are selling a cracked version of it for $8.
http://this-twisted-history.blogspot.com/
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08 Feb 2007 09:18 PM  
Hurrah Iran for sticking it to the man?
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09 Feb 2007 06:54 PM  
Our lovely website is run by Microsoft technology so don't knock it too much. The web server/programming stuff IMHO is actually the best on the market right now..

PHP / Linux / Open Source suffers from the problem of.. you guessed it.. lack of money/funding.  Although there's a lot of cool stuff happening in open source, unfortunately a bunch of guys in their moms basement can't really compete with the Borg (aka Microsoft).

 
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09 Feb 2007 06:57 PM  
Posted By Flutes on 01/27/2007 10:43 PM
Why does Microsoft have to go and ruin everything? Srsly.

See our blog posts, here and here.    Aside from the "dang we have to change everything on our website/computer/etc. to support this format" factor, it actually looks pretty good.





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10 Feb 2007 02:07 PM  
The format sounds good based on the information in those blog entries.

I was a little surprised to see the prediction that the new format would be around in 10 - 12 months, but I guess I don't recall a similar introduction of a new format to compare this to.
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12 Feb 2007 03:34 PM  
Hmn, wonder when they'll actually release exact figures though. Like a head to head comparison against a jpg and png file's image quality and file size. I think people are still going to stick to jpg for a bit, though, for...universality's sake. I mean, what's the point of uploading a picture not everyone can see, right? (used to png's case)
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18 Feb 2007 07:18 PM  
Seeing that less than 40% of the PC market has upgraded to Vista, I think it'll be sometime before this format catches on and becomes mainstream.
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19 Feb 2007 06:24 AM  

Well most of my stuff is JPEG or GIF>..so I don't really know..I think it would bug me since i use that most...

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19 Feb 2007 01:45 PM  
I think we will be able to see very shortly whether this catches on.. think of the huge costs to camera companies to reprogram their products to support a new picture format. The industry will either jump on board, or not at all. I don't think theres much room for in-between..
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05 Mar 2007 03:58 AM  
New usually seems scary. I think that for me, it is a "wait and see" how it goes, and what it is all about. Jpegs are what I use pretty much all of the time, but it is possible that a new or improved method could be great! If not, the consumers will be the ones who drive the need for this and hopefully they will listen. Interesting stuff.:)

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